The conventional wisdom about travel is that it will slip by just a few percentage points next year. But the unconventional wisdom - supported by several troubling surveys - points to a much bigger drop.
The conventional wisdom about travel is that it will slip by just a few percentage points next year. But the unconventional wisdom - supported by several troubling surveys - points to a much bigger drop.
Will you take a vacation in 2009, or will the sagging economy keep you close to home? Will you be one of the few looking for a great deal? Do you think travel is a luxury you should drop in tough times? Share your thoughts and join the discussion!
Absolutely not for me: no vacation in 2009.
I swore off commercial airline travel after 2004. It was the trip from hades for me from Seattle to Atlanta with delays, lost luggage and 4-hr layovers. Never again. I was in the Air Force, and I know how travel should be -- and can be.
Now, for my husband it is a different story. His kids live in the southeastern U.S., and he travels there every summer to Hilton Head. But although he loves seeing his kids and spending time with them, he does not like the travel part.
We wish there were an alternative. Amtrack's routing is so crazy it would take $5K each and almost 5 days to make the Seattle to Atlanta trip, and driving is just as long without wearing yourself out getting there and back.
So, we are thinking no trips this year. With the economy in the tank and no idea if we'll even have jobs by summer it's better for us to just say no, thanks to the silliness of it all.
I will not travel again until cruise lines, reorts and hotels negate the dreaded "single supplement."
I will be traveling in 2009 but that is b/c I have not been affected by the economy. My life/finances is the same as it was at the beginning of 2008. Should things change then my travel plans will change. It all depends on the persons situation
I'll find myself in wonderful Cozumel, MX a few times next year. Cheap places to stay, great food at great prices and wonderful English speaking locals.
I can pay for flights to Cozumel and stay at a nice luxurious condominium cheaper than I can rent an average place in the Outer Banks.
I have our annual Disney vacation planned for my daughter's birthday, plus trips to DC and NYC. Then weekend trips throughout the spring and summer to Chicago and Buffalo. The beach in August and hopefully a cruise in November. I can't imagine wasting my hard-earned vacation time on a "stay-cation" - that's one of the stupidest things I'd ever heard of, but to each their own I guess. If I'm taking a vacation, I'm actually GOING somewhere.
I refuse to give the airlines any revenue though. I either drive, or I fly standby as a companion thanks to friends in the airline industry. No way will I give the airlines scads of my money as long as they are unregulated and mismanaged. My car gets great gas mileage, so I don't have to feel guilty about using too much gas, and lining the pockets of the oil execs, either. :)
Before you start to think I'm some wealthy person, I'm a single mother in the lower-middle class, with no child support, and I work my tail off to be able to enjoy vacations. I pay my bills and save my money, but always make room in my budget for at least three week-long vacations per year. I just plan like crazy, and do lots of research to ensure that I get the very best deals possible. That way I'm not paying unnecessary amounts of money for vacations that I can get for 50% of what others pay.
My industry has been greatly affected by the economy, but thus far I am fortunate enough to have avoided layoffs. If something changes in 09, I'll go flip burgers and bag groceries if I have to. But I'm not giving up my vacations! As long as I have money in savings and all my bills paid, I see no reason to stop travelling.
Yes, to texas to see the f-ing new mansion that the thieveing bushes are having built. mrs. bush asked how she plans to retire and she answered they will be buy dallas real-estate
I will not do any travelling in 2009 except to visit relatives and stay with them. The uncertainty of the economy has a lot of people worried if they will still have a job next year. Frugality is the end game for me.
The airlines need to get their act together at this point. Fuel costs have plummeted and the nickel and dime approach (bags, window/aisle, snacks/beverage) needs to go before I decide to travel by air on more than a "as needed" basis again. On top of that, the abysmal customer service by airlines needs to improve drastically. Flying used to be a joy and now..... well, you know.
My family and I will be travelling to Mexico in early '09, only because of the following: 1) It was booked last summer and 2) my grandfather is paying for the trip. Otherwise there is no way that we would - or could - go. I am looking into a local vacation this coming summer with my wife and kids. Economy willing, we are planning to spend a weekend up at the Grand Canyon. We will either drive (about 3 hours) or take the Grand Canyon Railroad. It will be a nice break from the 117 degree heat.
We just drove up to Sedona for the day yesterday. Left the house at 1pm, got up there by 3. Did two hours of hiking and collecting gold, crimson, and rust-colored leaves. Grabbed a quick bite for the car ride home. Had all the kids in bed by 8pm. My oldest daughter (11) said it was one of the best days ever! As a parent, that's one of the best things I could hear.
My family and I will be travelling to Mexico in early '09, only because of the following: 1) It was booked last summer and 2) my grandfather is paying for the trip. Otherwise there is no way that we would - or could - go. I am looking into a local vacation this coming summer with my wife and kids. Economy willing, we are planning to spend a weekend up at the Grand Canyon. We will either drive (about 3 hours) or take the Grand Canyon Railroad. It will be a nice break from the 117 degree heat.
We just drove up to Sedona for the day yesterday. Left the house at 1pm, got up there by 3. Did two hours of hiking and collecting gold, crimson, and rust-colored leaves. Grabbed a quick bite for the car ride home. Had all the kids in bed by 8pm. My oldest daughter (11) said it was one of the best days ever! As a parent, that's one of the best things I could hear.
I don't think this is a time to be spending recklessly. Until we know how long or how bad this recession is going to be, I believe in saving every penny earned. How horrible would I feel if I spent several thousand on a vacation I could afford this year, and then couldn't afford to feed my children or put a roof over their heads next year?
Remember when the very idea of air travel, cruises, and big vacations were just a thing for the very rich? When did we become a society where everybody "deserves" travel? Probably about the same time that every newly married couple "deserved" a brand new home just like the ones on HGTV. Hello credit debt hell.
My husband and I will most likely be visiting Japan in early 2009. We're going because good friends are due to have their first baby soon, and it has been a couple of years since we moved away and we'd like to get back to catch up with old friends. We don't have kids yet, so we'll do our big international trips before they are in the cards.
I hope to take a trip home (Australia) every couple of years, but it's a very expensive undertaking. I was there this year, so I won't head home until at least 2010. :-(
We >might< take a camping trip in Canada this summer, or maybe next. I still can't quite wrap my brain around the fact that we'll need passports just to do that, though! :(
I won't take a flight unnecessarily until the airline industry gets it together. I hate the attitude and nickel and diming that they deem "necessary".
Current trips already booked for '09. Going to Florida in January. Montana in February. Colorado in June. Canada in August. South Dakota in November.
We live in AZ and would like to go back East to see family, but that won't happen in 09. Everyone needs to take time off from work whether traveling or not because we all need some peace and quiet sometimes. I will stay at home and play in my woodworking shop...wife will also take off and probably sleep and read. Telephones will be turned off/unplugged and we will not respond to knocks at the door.
I have a few trips planned this year....Houston and Omaha for the College World Series.
Yes we're traveling in 2009 - having been planning this for nearly two years, we're going ahead with our Kilimanjaro trek followed by a few relaxing days on the beach in Zanzibar.
Reading the story that led me here on msnbc, I was happy to hear people understanding whats going on in the airline industry. It's BAD. A $210, one way from Santo Domingo to Miami, tax & fees...$123! Miami to DFW tax & fees $10. That's how they pay for all those government employees. If the TSA wasn't bad enough, now it's trying to get past the airline counter with there $75 fee for 1 pound over on your 1 bag when the guy next to you weighs 100 lbs. more than you do!
I got a free ticket from American and was 95% sure I was returning th Samana, DR to continue working on my project there, now I've changed my mind. I'm going to work harder to earn $$ instead... The money I've lost to all these Big, Greedy, Corporations this year is incredible.
too soon to tell. alot depends on economy (ours). as others have said - air travel is horrible what with faux security that can be rude, cost of flights, long lines, overworked staff. car trips seem to be the better value with less hassle.
The closest thing to a vacation that we had this year, was a couple of two-day trips within driving distance from home. Next year, we may not even do that. After being unemployed for over 6 months (so far) and the job market looking worse every day, I have absolutely no reason to be optomistic about next year.
Even if I had the money, the airlines and the TSA give me no reason to even consider flying anywhere. I used to enjoy flying until the insane security restrictions and delays made flying intolerable. Then the airlines decided to pile-on to the insanity by doing their best to make their part just as bad, while charging more for less.
Certainly not by airline... I have learned to despise the entire arrogant airline industry. They will have to work very hard and successfully to win my family back. Hate 'em!!
By road... yes!! North America is full of wonder and enjoyment!!
Well, previously I was maintaining a schedule of around 10 short domestic, mileage earning trips a year and two long mileage-award trips to SE Asia that were half business, half fun. Was also being a medical/prescription tourist of sorts. The bad economy and an ill parent were a double whammy, and now I'm down to single day junkets to Fort Lauderdale if and only if I can get the RT at $40 or so all-in or under on Spirit. Will try to save the business part of the Asia trip next year, using miles.
Elliott left off a biggie in his article: UNFAIR TAXES AND JUNK FEES. When you price out a rental car and find 4 or 5 taxes or junk fees that add 75% to the base rate, or you get nickel and dimed for resort fees or invented surcharges at hotels and then taxed 15% on all of it, or you look at an airline ticket with $31 in taxes domestically or $64-300 overseas, it's all a POWERFUL reinforcement to the recession-based inclination not to travel. Travel operators have gone too far with the unbundling game to where the costs in large type aren't given much stock. And state and local governments have gone way too far trying to get travelers to pay for sports stadiums and other projects so as not to raise taxes on constituents that can vote against them.
What will happen is that the industry will contract and cause the tax base it generates to shrink along with it. What trips there are will be more car-based, and those tend to avoid most taxes (Sadly, they also tend to be deadlier in terms of accidents; in the 3 months after 9/11 they had an extra 1,000 or so highway deaths year-over-year).
Airlines are in denial and are thinking they can hold on to all the surcharges and junk fees and avoid fare cutting by shrinking. Any low-cost carrier like Southwest that can expand will be in position to steal even more market share.
No vacation this year and none next year either. Economy is the main reason along with sagging 401K just cannot allow any further lost income or debt. I own a 60 year old family home in the PA mountains, nothing fancy but it is free and that sounds just fine to me right now.
Will be vacationing as usual have most of my money in cd's now after losing a fortune in the markets. The need to see the world is just to pressing to resist.
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